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Zero Follow @squarezerO.bsky.social "It's consensual by default because it's already pretend" is something a lot of people need to digest more thoroughly. FanAstraea @fanastraea.bsky.social 10mo as a fan of noncon, dubcon and under/ non-negotiated cnc this is honestly one of the most straightforward explanations of this i've ever read? if I'm talking about non-diegetic bdsm, I'm referring to a story that portrays certain kinks without the direct acknowledgement that the characters are doing bdsm. this would be something like Captive Prince, or Phantom of the Opera again, or the vast majority of bodice ripper type stories where an innocent woman is kidnapped by a pirate king or something and totally doesn't want to be ravished but then it turns out he's so cool and sexy and good at ravishing that she decides she's into it and becomes his pirate consort or whatever it is that happens at the end of those books. the characters don't know they're playing out a cnc or D/s fantasy, and in-universe it's often straight up noncon or dubcon rather than cnc at all. the thing about entirely non- diegetic bdsm is that it's almost always Problematictm in some way if you're not willing to meet the story where it's at,but as long as you're not judging it by the standards of diegetic bdsm, it's just providing the reader the same thing that a partner in a scene would: the illusion of whatever risk or taboo floats your boat, sometimes to extremes that can't be replicated in real life due to safety, practicality, physics, the law, vampires not being real, etc. it's consensual by default because it's already pretend; the characters are vehicles for the story and not actually people who can be hurt, and the reader chose to pick up the book and is aware that nothing in it is real, so it's all good. 8:27 AM· Jul 24, 2026 Everybody can reply